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Peter

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Muhammad on Thievery
« on: August 26, 2009, 09:22:44 AM »
This thread locked to avoid redundant posting. To comment on an identical thread please go to this link in the Muhammad section
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=951.0

How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses (who even Muslims believe was sinless) five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

Do you suppose Allah ever showed up for his share?

Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Bear in mind that "lawful booty" was not gained in "war", but through imperialistic conquest and slaughter of peaceful peoples, and takeover of foreign lands, pillaging folks property as you go. Indeed the First Islamic Jihad was so heavily laden with property stolen from others when they arrived in Tours France that it impeded their escape from the hand of Charles "Martel".

That booty including girls and married women of the vanquished.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=456.0

Islam pretends to be a "faith of Abraham", so let's look at what Abraham did, after vanquishing God's enemies (not God's people like Mohammed did), when the vanquished even requested that he take their property.

Genesis 14.20  And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.  21  And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. {persons: Heb. souls}   22  And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,    23  That I will not [take] from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that [is] thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=951.0

Where does it put Mohammed?

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Did Mohammed, the unrepentant thief, inherit the kingdom of God?
How does Mohammed measure up to those verses?
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=879.0

earlier video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

From a great YouTube channel that explores Mohammed through the hadith:
http://www.youtube.com/user/podremvc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYL3cxHQ3o

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Re: Muhammad on Thievery
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2010, 07:41:34 AM »
Let's explore the rest of sura 8.41 to remove any confusion.

8.41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.

Of course Mohammed's "Allah" never showed up to collect his portion of Mohammed's 1/5 share of the property stolen from others, so Allah's share was spent on swords so Mohammed could continue to terrorize and torment the Jews, the Quraysh, and any other non-muslims that rejected Mohammed's stand-alone, 7th century, religious invention.
http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=856.0

Muslims are quick to point out that part of the stolen property was to be offered to "relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer" but that is the way that criminal bosses, have traditionally bought the favor of that portion of their community, that is immoral enough to accept ill gotten gains derived from property that was stolen from others.

Take mob boss "teflon" Don Gotti, for example. He used to throw money around the neighborhood, and the folks in the burrows that were immoral or reprobate enough to accept it, really liked the guy. This, of course, in spite of the fact that they knew full well that he was a murdering thief. Just like those that accepted the ill gotten gains that were offered by Mohammed, who was also a murdering thief.

Ishaq:465 "When their wrists were bound with cords, the Apostle was a sea of generosity to us."

Old covenant or new, stealing from others is of Satan, and definitely not of God.

Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

Is there anything ambiguous about that commandment?

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Re: Muhammad on Thievery
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 07:43:33 AM »
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_16_Mein_Kampf.Islam

Qur'an 59:6 "What Allah gave as booty to His Messenger, He has taken away from the Jews. For this you made no raid. Allah gives His Messenger Lordship over whom He will. Whatever booty Allah has given to Muhammad and taken away from the (Jewish) people of the townships, belongs to Allah and to His Apostle.... So take what the Messenger assigns to you, and deny yourselves that which he withholds. And fear Allah, for He is severe in Punishment."

This all-in-one Islamic verse is the reason the "religion" cannot be fixed. It features: racism, violent hostility, banishment, destruction, thievery, wrath, terror, forced exile, severe punishment, and threats for those who resist. A doctrine this perverse will continue to fester and grow. It will infect men's minds and souls until the whole world is consumed in war.