Re: CLASSICAL WRITERS SHOW MECCA COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT BEFORE THE 4th CENTURY AD
- Reply #33 on: July 09, 2010, 04:03:53 PM -
Quote from: AnnaMuslim on July 09, 2010, 02:43:19 PM
So ask a question, a valid one about Islam ......
Why do you think God would nullify His 1600 year record 500 years after that record closed, then reveal the EXACT OPPOSITE of that record, through an unrepentant prisoner rapist?
Quote from: AnnaMuslim on July 09, 2010, 02:43:19 PM
........ and lets discuss it AND DO Not I say "now bring proof, Scripture requires belief in the unseen, BELIEF IN THE PROPHETS AND IN GOD ALMIGHTY.
You make dangerous unqualified statements based on your emotions and biased that looks like an indoctrination.
Just because The Prophet Muhammad disagrees with unknown authors of a book (OT) clearly according to but not from GOD (IT READS LIKE A PLAGUERISED VERSION OF BUDHIST BELIEFS) does not mean MUSLIMS in anyway denies original scripture sent by GOD.
The opposite is true, In order to be a muslim you have to accept the TORAH (lost by the Jews) The ZABUR (PSalms deviated by Jews) and the INJEEL (lost and new testament written by the Nicean council.) AND ALL THE SCRIPTURE SENT BY GOD VI A HIS MESSENGERS.
THE QURAN MENTIONS 25 Prophets, by Name
1. The leader of all the Prophets, Sayyidina wa Nabiyyina Muhammad ibn 'Abdillah, Sallallahu 'alayhi wa Sallam.
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. mentioned 4 times in the Quran
2. Sayyidina Nab? ' ?sa ibn Maryam, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Jesus, son of Mary, peace be upon him. 29 times
3. Sayyidina Nab? Yahya ibn Zakariyya, 'alayhissalam. Prophet John, peace be upon him. 5 times
4. Sayyidina Nab? Zakariyya, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Zakarias, peace be upon him. 7
5. Sayyidina Nab? al-Yasa', 'alayhissalam. Prophet Elisha, peace be upon him. 2
6. Sayyidina Nab? Ilyas, 'alayhissalam.Prophet Elias, peace be upon him. 2
7. Sayyidina Nab? Y?nus, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Jonah, peace be upon him. 4
8. Sayyidina Nab? Dhu'l Kifl, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Ezekiel, peace be upon him. 2
9. Sayyidina Nab? Ayy?b, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Job, peace be upon him. 4
10. Sayyidina Nab? Sulayman ibn Daw?d, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Solomon, peace be upon him. 17
11. Sayyidina Nab? Daw?d, 'alayhissalam. Prophet David, peace be upon him. 16
12. Sayyidina Nab? M?sa ibn 'Imran, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Moses, peace be upon him. 136
13. Sayyidina Nab? Har?n ibn 'Imran, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Aaron, peace be upon him. 20
14. Sayyidina Nab? Shu'ayb, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Shu'ayb, peace be upon him. 11
15. Sayyidina Nab? Y?suf ibn Ya'q?b, 'alayhissalam.Prophet Joseph, peace be upon him. 27
16. Sayyidina Nab? Ya'q?b ibn Ishaq, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Jacob, peace be upon him. 16
17. Sayyidina Nab? Ishaq ibn Ibrah?m, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Issac, peace be upon him. 17
18. Sayyidina Nab? Isma'?l ibn Ibrah?m, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Ishmael, peace be upon him. 12
19. Sayyidina Nab? Ibrah?m ibn Tarikh, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Abraham, peace be upon him. 69
20. Sayyidina Nab? L?t, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Lot, peace be upon him. 27
21. Sayyidina Nab? Salih, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Salih, peace be upon him. 9
22. Sayyidina Nab? H?d, 'alayhissalam. Prophet H?d, peace be upon him. 7
23. Sayyidina Nab? N?h, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Noah, peace be upon him. 43
24. Sayyidina Nab? Idr?s, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Enoch, peace be upon him. 2
25. Sayyidina Nab? ` Adam, 'alayhissalam. Prophet Adam, peace be upon him. 25
The Quran is about the Scripture that came before as an example and the traditions of the Prophets that were deviated by so called experts who refuses to acknowledge the truth and follow the Commands of ALLAH. ALL THE DEVIATIONS DID AWAY WITH OR MODIFIED THE COMANDS OF ALLAH. THE WORSE OF THE DEVIATIONS IS IDOL WORSHIPPING (KUFR) DISBELIEF AND ASCRIBING PARTNERS TO ALLAH. SAYING THAT SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IS ALLAH.
THE PLOY OF SATAN IS TO GET HUMANS TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF ALLAH BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! IF YOU BELIEVE YOU SAVED THEN OBVIOUSLY ALL THE LAWS OF GOD IS NULLIFIED> IT REQUIRES THAT YOU NULLIFY PREVIOUS SCRIPTURES AND PROPHETS>
MR RAFAT AMARI AND ELLIS SKOLLFIELD ARE very SKILLFUL, They say historians say and he then goes on to draw conclusions, from the pagan historians no less, the very enemies of the Jews and Christians! They are taking their words (empty and devoid of blessing) from deviated books written by men that have been deviated.
The archeological and historical evidence is an empty argument it proves nothing and it is not proof of anything regarding MAKKAH, the evidence that you seek is with Muslims but requires belief in ALLAH (GOD IF you insist) TRUE BELIEF (NOTE I AM NOT SAYING MUSLIM) BELIEVE IN ONE GOD THE GOD OF ALL THE PROPHET AND MANKIND. ND YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWERS.
THE PROPHETS SAY THIS THEREFORE THE MUSLIMS ARE THAT, That is not argument, it is conjecture, conclusions like Darwin Theories, Plausible but irrelevant to mankind. It will deviate the hearts of men from the truth.
I see men like this everyday and I can tell now from experience they have wasted countless resources, time and a few lives including their own.
Getting someone to believe that A GOD DIED or (SON OF GOD?) or (GOD"S SON)(DID HE BECOME THE HOLY SPIRIT?) (CAN A SPIRIT DIE?
WELL HE DIDNT DIE BECAUSE HE LIVED AGAIN, MYRR AND ROSEMARY ARE HARDLY EMBALMING OILS, IT IS USED TO REVIVE SOMEONE< HEALING STUFF. HE didnt die as RESURRECTED< CHEATED DEATH< BUT HANGON SOME DID THAT Happen ALREADY< Someone CAME BACK FROME THE DEAD, The dead was brought back to life? can it happen to anyone and why?< IF YOU BRING SOMEONE ELSE BACK< BRINGING YOURSELF BACK IS HARDLY DIFFICULT,
SO MANY Possibilities with an outcome that strips me of my free will. SOMEONE ELSE DIED FOR ME. CAN A GOD DIE? APPARENTLY IN GREEK AND ROMaN MYTHOLOGY THEY CAN!
MAKKAH AND ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE: START BY PRESENTING EVIDENCE FOR YOUR OWN BELIEFS: THE ORIGINS AND THE AUTHORS>